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Episode 2691:
Mark Dennis of FinancialFinesse.com sheds light on the complexities of borrowing from your 401(k). He outlines the seductive ease of tapping into retirement savings for immediate financial needs but cautions against the long-term repercussions such actions may have on one's financial health and retirement planning. Dennis meticulously explores the benefits and pitfalls, emphasizing smarter alternatives to safeguard one’s financial future.
Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.financialfinesse.com/2017/10/23/is-it-ever-ok-to-borrow-from-your-401k/
Quotes to ponder:
"Plundering our retirement piggy banks can be tempting when a financial emergency arises, but this type of short-term fix may have some long-term consequences that are more expensive than we realize."
"Once you dip into your retirement stash and use it to relieve some type of financial pain, you can begin to slide down a slippery financial behavior slope."
"Bottom line: make sure you have carefully considered all other alternatives before you undo much of the hard work you have already invested in growing your retirement nest egg."
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[00:01:14] Is it ever okay to borrow from your 401k?
[00:01:17] By Mark Dennis of FinancialFaness.com.
[00:01:20] And I'm your host and personal finance enthusiast, Diana Merriam.
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[00:01:41] Is it ever okay to borrow from your 401k?
[00:01:44] By Mark Dennis of FinancialFaness.com.
[00:01:48] Ideally, never, or at least rarely.
[00:01:52] Plundering or retirement piggy banks can be tempting when a financial emergency arises,
[00:01:57] or perhaps when we're looking for cash to finance a home purchase
[00:02:00] or pay off some high-interest credit cards.
[00:02:03] Although the IRS rules do allow for retirement plan loans,
[00:02:07] the maximum loan size is either 1. the greater of $10,000
[00:02:12] or half of your vested 401k balance,
[00:02:15] or 2. $50,000, whichever is smaller.
[00:02:19] While borrowing from yourself in this way can be convenient and seem relatively harmless,
[00:02:24] this type of short-term fix may have some long-term consequences
[00:02:28] that are more expensive than we realize.
[00:02:31] 401k loans seem attractive at first.
[00:02:35] On the one hand, borrowing from our company retirement plans is tempting for several reasons.
[00:02:40] No credit check is required, and consequently, it will not affect your credit score.
[00:02:45] The interest rate is potentially lower than that of a traditional loan.
[00:02:49] You pay back the loan conveniently through payroll deduction
[00:02:53] and you're borrowing your own money and paying yourself back with interest.
[00:02:57] Where's the harm, right?
[00:02:59] Then things can get ugly.
[00:03:01] A closer examination of exactly how all of the moving parts work
[00:03:05] as well as some of the things that could potentially go wrong
[00:03:08] might lead you to conclude that getting a bank loan,
[00:03:11] borrowing against home equity, selling other assets
[00:03:14] or even borrowing from family might be better for you in the long run.
[00:03:18] Here are some of the reasons to think twice before taking out a 401k loan.
[00:03:23] Number one, you'll pay taxes on the same money twice.
[00:03:27] It's true that you pay yourself back with some interest,
[00:03:30] but you also use after-tax dollars to make those interest payments.
[00:03:34] In the future, when you spend your pre-tax 401k money in retirement,
[00:03:39] those future interest distributions will be taxable as ordinary income,
[00:03:43] meaning you actually pay taxes twice on that money.
[00:03:47] Number two, lost growth and compounding.
[00:03:51] The money you borrow from your 401k is temporarily removed from the underlying investments,
[00:03:56] missing out on any market growth, interest, dividends, etc.
[00:04:01] The double whammy comes from the missed opportunity for this growth
[00:04:04] to be reinvested and earn even more through compounding,
[00:04:08] which is the financial superpower that comes from investing
[00:04:11] and staying invested over time.
[00:04:14] Number three, treating your 401k like an ATM.
[00:04:18] Once you dip into your retirement stash
[00:04:20] and use it to relieve some type of financial pain,
[00:04:23] you can begin to slide down a slippery financial behavior slope.
[00:04:27] Having rewarded yourself once with a relatively easy source of cash,
[00:04:31] you run the risk of training your brain to think of the strategy
[00:04:35] as a reasonable substitute for creating and maintaining better financial habits,
[00:04:40] such as regularly saving cash in an emergency fund,
[00:04:43] sticking with a budget, or increasing your retirement plan contribution rate.
[00:04:48] Staying faithful to healthier financial priorities
[00:04:51] helps you avoid disturbing your retirement plan's progress
[00:04:54] by treating it like an ATM machine and dipping into it multiple times.
[00:05:00] Number four, less take-home pay.
[00:05:03] While you're repaying your loan,
[00:05:05] your paycheck will be reduced by the amount of the loan repayment.
[00:05:09] If your cash flow is tight before rating your retirement fund,
[00:05:12] you may soon discover that it becomes even more challenging
[00:05:15] with a reduced paycheck.
[00:05:17] And number five, severe taxes and penalties.
[00:05:21] If you leave your employer for any reason,
[00:05:24] whether it's your idea or if your employer fires you,
[00:05:27] you might have to repay the entire remaining loan balance
[00:05:30] within as little as 60 to 90 days.
[00:05:33] This requirement varies from plan to plan.
[00:05:35] Some company retirement plans allow you to continue
[00:05:37] making the scheduled loan payments
[00:05:39] without having to pay it all back early.
[00:05:41] However, your payments obviously will no longer come from payroll deduction
[00:05:45] once your job ends.
[00:05:47] If your period of unemployment is lengthy,
[00:05:50] you might not be able to keep up with the required repayment schedule.
[00:05:54] Once you default on a 401k loan,
[00:05:56] the IRS then treats any remaining balance as a taxable distribution.
[00:06:01] If you're under age 59 and a half at that time,
[00:06:04] there may be an additional 10% tax penalty
[00:06:07] for taking an early withdrawal from your retirement plan.
[00:06:10] What was once a temporary financial fix
[00:06:13] could quickly become an expensive tax bomb.
[00:06:16] It might be okay to borrow once, if...
[00:06:20] Number one, you have a high interest rate.
[00:06:23] Think double digit debt and you have exhausted
[00:06:25] all other options to refinance
[00:06:27] or negotiate a lower interest rate.
[00:06:29] The ongoing challenge will be to reduce any temptation
[00:06:32] to begin using the same high interest credit cards
[00:06:35] or loan sources again and recreate the problem.
[00:06:39] Once you pay back the 401k loan,
[00:06:41] take that monthly loan payment you were making
[00:06:43] and redirect it to a savings account at your bank,
[00:06:46] building up an emergency fund you can use
[00:06:48] for future financial emergencies
[00:06:50] rather than raiding your retirement plan like a pirate.
[00:06:54] Number two, you owe the IRS back taxes.
[00:06:58] With interest and penalties stacking up on overdue taxes,
[00:07:01] this financial burden can become very serious over time.
[00:07:05] In this case, a 401k loan might be your saving grace.
[00:07:08] However, you may qualify for relief under the IRS guidelines
[00:07:12] for alternate payment plans and hardship.
[00:07:15] Number three, you're in real danger of defaulting
[00:07:18] on a student loan.
[00:07:19] In most cases, bankruptcy is not an option for these.
[00:07:23] Or number four, you're facing eminent bankruptcy
[00:07:26] or eviction from your home.
[00:07:29] Talk to a nonprofit consumer credit counselor
[00:07:32] at nfcc.org about alternatives to bankruptcy.
[00:07:36] If a 401k loan can buy you some valuable time
[00:07:39] while you restructure your cash flow and other investments
[00:07:42] to support a sustainable strategy
[00:07:44] and repay your 401k loan,
[00:07:46] this might be an appropriate financial move.
[00:07:49] The important thing to keep in mind
[00:07:51] regarding loans from your retirement plan
[00:07:53] is to make sure you address the underlying need for cash
[00:07:56] rather than simply assuming the 401k loan
[00:07:59] will solve the immediate problem.
[00:08:01] Otherwise, you could find yourself on an unhealthy financial treadmill
[00:08:05] where you repeatedly borrow from your 401k
[00:08:08] and begin to seriously jeopardize your ability to retire on time,
[00:08:11] comfortably or both.
[00:08:14] A good way to see just how damaging and expensive
[00:08:16] a retirement plan loan can be to your financial future
[00:08:19] is to use the National Center for Policy Analysis
[00:08:23] 401k borrowing calculator.
[00:08:26] This calculator shows how much less money you may have
[00:08:29] for retirement if you borrow from your retirement plan
[00:08:32] versus not taking out a 401k loan.
[00:08:35] Bottom line, make sure you have carefully considered
[00:08:38] all other alternatives before you undo
[00:08:41] much of the hard work you've already invested
[00:08:43] in growing your retirement nest egg.
[00:08:49] You just listened to the post titled
[00:08:51] Is it ever okay to borrow from your 401k?
[00:08:54] By Mark Dennis of FinancialFaness.com
[00:08:57] and I'll be right back with my commentary.
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[00:11:07] While I'm sure there are probably situations
[00:11:09] where a 401k loan is a good idea,
[00:11:11] I personally cannot think of even one.
[00:11:14] For me, taking on a 401k loan
[00:11:16] would require some pretty dire circumstances
[00:11:19] where I needed money immediately
[00:11:21] for some life-threatening emergency.
[00:11:23] I had no other reserves,
[00:11:25] no options for increasing my income,
[00:11:27] I didn't qualify for any other type of low interest debt
[00:11:30] and no one on the planet was willing to lend me some money.
[00:11:33] I can't imagine why I would need a loan so bad
[00:11:36] that I would risk my retirement savings
[00:11:38] and that I'd be willing to interrupt my money earning more money.
[00:11:42] I mostly hear of people taking a 401k loan
[00:11:45] to funded down payment on a house,
[00:11:47] do home improvements or consolidate debt.
[00:11:50] That sounds ludicrous to me.
[00:11:52] When I invest my money, I do it for the long term
[00:11:55] and I'm so firm in my commitment
[00:11:57] to not touch the money I have invested
[00:11:59] I actually think of it as a tax I've paid to my future self.
[00:12:02] That money is gone.
[00:12:04] I have no claim to it because it's not my money.
[00:12:07] It's future Diana's money and she says no anytime I ask for some.
[00:12:11] That should do it for today.
[00:12:13] Have a happy rest of your day
[00:12:14] and I'll see you on the Monday show tomorrow
[00:12:16] where your optimal life awaits.




