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Episode 2100:
Shelby Forsythia delves into the profound pain of unmet expectations in relationships in "When People Aren’t Who We Need Them To Be," emphasizing the importance of grieving for what our relationships are not. Forsythia provides a compassionate guide to accepting loved ones as they are, while also navigating our own desires for change and improvement in those relationships.
Read along with the original article(s) here: https://medium.com/@shelbyforsythia/when-people-arent-who-we-need-them-to-be-5c878a444774
Quotes to ponder:
"When you love someone, you have to love them for who they are, not who you want them to be."
"Grieving is not just for death; it's also for the living relationships that don't meet our expectations."
"We must grieve the 'ideal' versions of our loved ones to truly accept them and move forward."
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[00:00:52] This is Optimal Relationships Daily, episode 2100. When people aren't who we need them
[00:00:57] to be by Shelby for Scythia of Shelby for Scythia.com.
[00:01:03] Hello everybody and welcome welcome to ORD, the podcast on which I Greg Audino narrate
[00:01:09] and offer commentary on different articles written about relationship building. In this
[00:01:13] time the work I'll be sharing comes from Shelby for Scythia who focuses mostly on overcoming
[00:01:18] grief. She'll be talking about a really unique variant of that today. So let's give her
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[00:01:31] When people aren't who we need them to be by Shelby for Scythia of Shelby for Scythia.com.
[00:01:38] I heard a story this week about a man who is physically attacked at a weekly poker
[00:01:42] game. As he recounted his story, I noticed that his feelings about the fight were not
[00:01:48] tied to his physical injuries, were the fact that the man who attacked him had some long
[00:01:52] standing anger issues. His feelings were based around the fact that his father, who was
[00:01:57] present at the poker game as he had been for the past eleven years, did not jump into
[00:02:02] defend him. As he got deeper into this story, he noted that his father's pattern of inactivity,
[00:02:09] of not jumping in, was a long standing point of contention. He said that his father,
[00:02:15] a wonderful stand up man otherwise, had a recurring habit of ignoring, overlooking or
[00:02:21] straight up refusing to deal with issues. And this two minutes scrape at a poker game
[00:02:26] was another example of his father's inability to protect and defend him. What happened
[00:02:31] at this poker game was not just an attack. It was the final straw for a son who had been
[00:02:36] let down time and time again when his father failed to show up and take action. It was
[00:02:42] a lifetime of expectations and disappointments physically and painfully played out in real
[00:02:47] time. So what do we do when the people we love disappoint us? What do we do when the
[00:02:53] people in our lives aren't who we expect, want or need them to be? We grieve. Yep,
[00:03:01] we grieve. People are supposed to be a lot of things for us. Parents are supposed to
[00:03:06] be supportive and protective. Friends are supposed to be honest and kind. Co-workers are
[00:03:11] supposed to be respectful and timely. Kids are supposed to be grateful and polite. Partners
[00:03:17] are supposed to be loving and attentive. But what do we do when they're not? When we lose
[00:03:23] our feelings of trust, safety and hope for change, we grieve. We grieve because our expectations,
[00:03:30] however, reasonable informed or natural, are not reality. We grieve because the life
[00:03:36] and relationship we are supposed to have with this person is not playing out like we imagined.
[00:03:42] We grieve because we have to acknowledge that our parents, friends, co-workers,
[00:03:47] kids and partners have disappointed us. Have let us down. Have let us know that they will not be
[00:03:54] changing. You cannot love someone and simultaneously wish they were different. It sucks but it's true.
[00:04:01] So, how do you get to loving them? Warts, faults and all.
[00:04:07] Number one, acknowledge that things will not be the way you expect, want or need them to be.
[00:04:14] This means releasing the idea of a perfect future or a changed person. Your father may not
[00:04:19] jump into protect you. Your friend may lie until you she sick when she wants to stay in for the night.
[00:04:25] Your coworker may keep leaving the communal coffee pot empty. Your child may not believe in God.
[00:04:32] Your partner may be more focused on the TV than you when it's on. I'm guilty of this one.
[00:04:37] You get the idea. Big or small, recent or long standing. You can grieve anything that's not what
[00:04:44] you expected it to be. It doesn't make you needy or selfish to expect things of others.
[00:04:51] It makes you human. Nothing is too petty. So write about it, cry about it,
[00:04:57] pray about it if that's what resonates with you. Just acknowledge in some way that what you expect
[00:05:03] want or need is not what's happening and that it will probably never happen the way you expect
[00:05:09] want or need it to. Number two, take a look at your relationship with this person and ask yourself
[00:05:15] what you can do on your side of the relationship. If they're slow to defend you or stand up for you,
[00:05:23] can you talk to them about your feelings? Can you start spending more time with other people who
[00:05:27] have your back? If they're a chronic complainer, can you use mindfulness or meditation tools
[00:05:33] to distance yourself from their negativity? If they're distracted or distant, can you turn off
[00:05:38] the TV when you want their attention? Can you make a date to talk about important feelings and issues?
[00:05:45] If they're always late, can you tell them meetings are set a half an hour earlier than they
[00:05:49] actually are? Can you send them a warning or do you need to fire them? If they are stubborn about
[00:05:55] politics or religion, can you listen to their perspective? Can you immerse yourself in groups that
[00:06:01] are more aligned with your values? Please note that if there is abuse of any kind in your relationship,
[00:06:06] your first priority is getting yourself and your dependence out of harm's ways quickly as possible.
[00:06:11] And number three, remember that everyone comes with their faults, flaws and shortcomings
[00:06:18] and that you have the power to choose where your relationship goes next. Society feeds us lots of
[00:06:24] pictures of perfect relationships but I can tell you and lots of other people will tell you
[00:06:30] there ain't no such thing. Others let us down just like we let them down and there's nothing
[00:06:36] inherently wrong with any of us. We're all just human, operating the best we know how in this world.
[00:06:43] The best part about acknowledging imperfection and never met hopes, dreams and expectations
[00:06:49] is that we have the power to reconfigure our new hopes, dreams and expectations
[00:06:53] to include this newly acknowledged imperfection. We can choose to end negative relationships,
[00:06:59] take action and stagnate ones or form new relationships that better support our wants and needs.
[00:07:05] But first, we must grieve the ideal parents, friends, co-workers, kids and partners that never were.
[00:07:14] We must release the hopes, dreams and expectations we have of them and see them for what they are.
[00:07:20] Only then can we move forward. First because we are seeing them with all inclusive eyes
[00:07:26] and second because we are seeing ourselves as co-creators of hopes, dreams, expectations in our
[00:07:33] relationships. You just listen to the post titled, When People Aren't Who We Need Them To Be
[00:07:43] by ShelbyForsithia of ShelbyForsithia.com and I'll be back with my commentary right after this.
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[00:10:20] However, I do feel compelled to challenge one thought that she offered, which was that you can't
[00:10:25] love someone and simultaneously want them to change. I think what she meant was that maybe it's
[00:10:31] not true love if you are trying to mold someone into something new and won't accept them otherwise.
[00:10:37] But that is definitely different from, say, hoping that a loved one might return to who they
[00:10:42] once were when they had less destructive values or finding a better version of themselves that's
[00:10:48] healthier for them. To use a relatively extreme example, you know a parent can love a child
[00:10:54] who has lived a life of crime. That doesn't mean that they don't want them to change.
[00:10:59] You might say the same about your spouse who has spending habits that worry you.
[00:11:03] So there's a really wide spectrum there. I recommend that you take stock of the ways in which you
[00:11:08] might want others to change and how depending on what those changes you hope to see might be,
[00:11:14] they can definitely be coming from a place of love and concern. Are the changes you'd like them
[00:11:19] to make selfish or selfless? Many of them are likely to be bred from love and concern as I said.
[00:11:26] So don't feel as though just because you want someone to change in one way doesn't mean that you
[00:11:32] don't love them or are incapable of love somehow. Each change you want to see and intention behind
[00:11:39] that change is different. And the same goes for changes others might want to see in you, which
[00:11:44] is really important to remember. But with that we are done for the day friends. I thank you very
[00:11:49] much as always for listening today and doing right by your relationships and doing so. Have a great
[00:11:54] rest of your day and be sure to come back tomorrow for a parenting post where your optimal life awaits.




