2316: The Re-Negotiated Relationship by Keith Wilson on Breakup & Divorce Advice
Optimal Relationships DailySeptember 18, 2024
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2316: The Re-Negotiated Relationship by Keith Wilson on Breakup & Divorce Advice

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Episode 2316:

Keith Wilson explores how relationships endure even after love fades, emphasizing that emotional ties remain long after separation. He illustrates how former partners often need to re-negotiate their relationship dynamics, especially when kids or shared responsibilities are involved, offering valuable insights into how to maintain a functional, if altered, connection.

Read along with the original article(s) here: https://keithwilsoncounseling.com/2018/01/05/the-re-negotiated-relationship/

Quotes to ponder:

"You’ll never be indifferent about a former partner, no matter how hard you try to fake it."

"These can be very satisfying and valuable relationships, nonetheless, for both of you and, especially, for the kids."

"Love may not be eternal, but relationship is."

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[00:00:00] This is Optimal Relationships Daily, the re-negotiated relationship by Keith Wilson of Keith WilsonCounseling.com

[00:00:09] Hello everybody I am your host, Greg Audino and welcome back to the show that is all about the different types of relationships in your life

[00:00:17] and what people who aren't you and aren't in your life it all have to say about them, ha ha

[00:00:23] A lot of motivation on this show to amplify our relationships

[00:00:26] Now, today's post is by License Professional Counselor Keith Wilson so let's get into his post and start optimizing your life

[00:00:38] The re-negotiated relationship by Keith Wilson of Keith WilsonCounseling.com

[00:00:45] Once you're in a relationship with someone you'll always be in a relationship with that person

[00:00:50] It's like the hotel California you can never leave

[00:00:53] I don't care if you never speak to her again

[00:00:56] If you move to the other side of the world and put up a dartboard with her face on it

[00:01:00] You'll always be in a relationship

[00:01:03] There will always be a corner of your brain

[00:01:06] I dare say a corner of your heart that has her name on it

[00:01:10] This is doubly true if you're in photos on Facebook together

[00:01:13] This is Tripoli True if she met your parents

[00:01:17] It's quadruply true if you were married

[00:01:19] It's doubly Tripoli quadruply true if you have kids together

[00:01:23] You're hitched

[00:01:25] Love may not be eternal but a relationship is

[00:01:28] The legal end of a marriage is not the end of a relationship

[00:01:33] Relationship at its minimal level means that your partner rents space in your head

[00:01:37] You think of him sometimes happily or unhappy with fondness or regret

[00:01:41] He's part of your story and you're part of his

[00:01:44] You have to account for him if you're honest

[00:01:46] You'll be flooded with memories good or bad after the most trivial cues

[00:01:51] He'll affect the way you relate to anyone else

[00:01:53] He'll always be an item to compare and contrast

[00:01:57] Usually there are more feelings many more

[00:02:00] They may be negative feelings you might hate her but hates a feeling

[00:02:04] At some point time and time again for the rest of your life

[00:02:07] When the right buttons are pushed

[00:02:09] You'll be transported by your passions

[00:02:11] You've seen this in others

[00:02:13] You've had beers with the man who at the mere mention of his ex

[00:02:16] Goes on a 10 minute tirade about the shrew

[00:02:19] You've drained a bottle of wine with the friend who comes over every detail of her

[00:02:23] Ex is pervasive perfity

[00:02:25] These are people still in relationships even though their divorces are final

[00:02:30] By the way, 11-8 are not that far apart

[00:02:34] They're both intense. They're both very very far away from indifference

[00:02:38] You'll never be indifferent about a former partner

[00:02:41] No matter how hard you try and fake it

[00:02:43] If you agree that you will always be in a relationship

[00:02:47] Then the question is what kind of relationship will it be

[00:02:51] Seizing the rope

[00:02:53] Picture yourself having fallen off a cliff and hanging on to a bush

[00:02:57] Just as the roots are beginning to give

[00:03:00] Someone lowers a rope down to you. It's the person you once loved who hurt you and you no longer trust

[00:03:07] Do you grab the rope? I think no matter what you might say

[00:03:12] You'll grab the rope but maybe not until after that bush begins to give way

[00:03:16] If you don't grab the rope out of spite or stupidity

[00:03:20] Because you don't want to give him the satisfaction of saving you then you die

[00:03:25] If you do grab the rope then you've demonstrated that no matter how untrustworthy a person is

[00:03:31] If the need is great enough

[00:03:33] You'll trust him

[00:03:34] After he calls you back up and you catch your breath

[00:03:37] You might not fall into his arms and live happily ever after

[00:03:40] The wounds of the past are still unhealed

[00:03:43] He may have saved your life but he's still a jerk

[00:03:46] However, you have succeeded in setting aside your differences to work together towards an important goal

[00:03:53] You briefly renegotiated your relationship

[00:03:57] I tell this story as a way of saying that sometimes not only when you fall off a cliff

[00:04:02] You still have a need that only your former loved one will satisfy

[00:04:06] When that happens you renegotiate your relationship

[00:04:10] The renegotiated relationship

[00:04:13] Once a relationship is made for one purpose it's possible to change that purpose to another

[00:04:18] When you get together with someone to hang on Friday nights and end up having

[00:04:22] You are renegotiating the relationship

[00:04:26] When you decide to be exclusive you've renegotiated it again and again when you give her a ring

[00:04:31] Before you know it your relationship is all about raising kids and paying off a mortgage

[00:04:36] Hopefully you still enjoy each other's company on Friday night and

[00:04:40] In long vibrant marriages

[00:04:42] Purpose is accumulate in ailing ones old purposes die off

[00:04:47] If you have lost some purposes but others remain then it may make sense to renegotiate the relationship

[00:04:53] People do this all the time when they get a divorce

[00:04:56] But cooperate with each other to raise kids

[00:04:59] They say their union is finished

[00:05:01] But it's really not it's been converted into another kind of union working together towards a different purpose

[00:05:07] The couple might not achieve authentic reconciliation this way they never go back to the fullness of their relationship as it existed before

[00:05:15] You don't need to trust that your husband won't sleep with other women for example

[00:05:20] You just need to trust that he'll bring back the kids

[00:05:22] These can be very satisfying and valuable relationships nonetheless for both of you and especially for the kids

[00:05:30] Renegotiating and growing up

[00:05:32] You can see this process of renegotiation in any healthy relationship between parents and children

[00:05:38] In early childhood parents are responsible for everything and they can claim almost complete access to their child

[00:05:45] When you were young you could fin your pants and your parents had to clean it up

[00:05:49] When they did so they would touch you in a private area

[00:05:53] As you get older you had to clean yourself up and doing so you earned the right to set boundaries on your parents

[00:05:59] As an adult your parents can't touch your they may even have to knock before they can come in your house

[00:06:05] But you can have a very satisfying

[00:06:07] Valueable relationship with them nonetheless in cases where you have been harmed by a parent

[00:06:13] You may need to renegotiate their relationship further

[00:06:16] If your father can't say three words to you without being critical

[00:06:19] Then you may not want to play golf with him every weekend because you can't trust him to go

[00:06:24] 18 holes without getting on your nerves

[00:06:26] On the other hand you might not want to sever the relationship completely because you don't think that would be right

[00:06:32] Besides you still want to see your mother. That's what Thanksgiving dinner is for my guess

[00:06:36] For the sake of peace your relationship has been renegotiated into one where you have a meal once a year

[00:06:43] The long way to reconciliation

[00:06:46] When someone has been harmed in a relationship and the relationship is renegotiated into something more limited

[00:06:52] We can't really say the partners have achieved full reconciliation

[00:06:56] It's not like they've gone back to the way things were before, but they've negotiated a peace

[00:07:01] So to speak. They instituted a demilitarized zone that none can cross

[00:07:06] Having this understanding is so much better than all out war

[00:07:10] But the partner still rarely patrol the border for violations and incursions

[00:07:15] In time if the DMZ is respected it can turn into an ordinary boundary that requires no special defense

[00:07:22] Then you might say there is reconciliation if only because the two parties simply don't need to fight

[00:07:27] It's hard to believe that two former British colonies the United States and Canada have several times in their history

[00:07:34] Thought wars against each other

[00:07:35] The issues between them have long since passed away and only historians remember why they fought

[00:07:41] You could say that the two countries have reached reconciliation without ever uniting

[00:07:45] This is the long way to reconciliation which is achieved not by the members working it out

[00:07:52] But by agreeing to leave each other alone

[00:07:57] You just listen to the post titled the renegotiated relationship by Keith Wilson of Keith Wilson counseling dot com

[00:08:06] Thanks so much to Keith very important to realize that our relationships with everything are always changing not just people

[00:08:13] This can sure be hard to acknowledge

[00:08:15] Especially for those of us who consciously or subconsciously look to any person or item as a means of angering ourselves or

[00:08:23] Lying upon them to keep us all right if you will but if we can stay aware of impending transitions in both good times in bad

[00:08:31] There's much less temptation to control and thus a much freer and more accepting relationship

[00:08:38] That'll do it for today though my friends. Thanks so much for tuning in and I will see you tomorrow

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