1282: Should You Work For Free by Seth Godin on the Strategic Choice of Unpaid Work
Optimal Work DailyApril 04, 2024
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1282: Should You Work For Free by Seth Godin on the Strategic Choice of Unpaid Work

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Episode 1282:

In Seth Godin's exploration of whether one should work for free, he delves into the nuances of professional labor, distinguishing between activities driven by personal joy versus those committed to with professional rigor, risk, and promise. Godin argues for the strategic choice of unpaid work when it leverages exposure, trust, and positive change, critiquing simplistic equations of value and urging a nuanced understanding of when free work can amplify one's reach and reputation.

Read along with the original article(s) here: https://seths.blog/2013/02/should-you-work-for-free/

Quotes to ponder:

"Work is what you do as a professional, when you make a promise that involves rigor and labor (physical and emotional) and risk."

"The more generous you are with your ideas, and the more they spread, the more likely it is your perceived value goes up."

"If you’re busy doing free work because it’s a good way to hide from the difficult job of getting paid for your work, stop."

Episode references:

AltMBA: https://altmba.com/

Seth's TED Talks: https://www.ted.com/search?q=seth%20godin

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[00:00:00] This is Optimal Work Daily, Episode 1282. Should you work for free? By Seth Goden of Seth.blog.

[00:00:08] And welcome to this Thursday edition of Optimal Work Daily. Hope your April has been getting

[00:00:13] off to a good start this week and today we're going to hear from one of our regular authors,

[00:00:17] Seth Goden. I'll tell you more about Seth and his site after the post. But for now, let's get

[00:00:22] it going and start optimizing your life. Should you work for free by Seth Goden of Seth.blog?

[00:00:32] That depends on what you mean by work and by free. Work is what you do as a professional when

[00:00:39] you make a promise that involves rigor and labor, physical and emotional, and risk. Work is showing up

[00:00:45] at the appointed time whether or not you feel like it. Work is creating value on demand and work

[00:00:52] for the artist means putting all of it or most of it on the line. So it's not work when you

[00:00:57] indulge your hobby and paint an oil landscape, but it is work when you agree to paint someone's

[00:01:02] house by next week. And it's not work when you cook dinner for friends, but it is work when

[00:01:08] you're a sous chef on the line on Saturday night. And free? Well, you're certainly not working for

[00:01:14] free if you get some cash at the end of the night, but what about a nine minute segment on 60 minutes

[00:01:19] about your new project or a long interview with Krista Tippett on her radio show. Should you get

[00:01:23] paid for that? Clearly not, not if you think you'll be able to turn that platform into positive

[00:01:28] change into increased trust into something that moves you forward. As more of us work with abundant

[00:01:35] ideas, not scarce resources, the question comes up more often. I'm not delving it all into the idea

[00:01:41] of donating your work to a cause you believe in. That's not a selfish calculation, it's a generous

[00:01:46] one and I'm all for it. But to do it for that reason, because paying your work forward is the

[00:01:52] right thing to do. Harlan Ellison is gifted, inspired and entertaining, but his profane refusal

[00:01:59] to work for free confuses work for money with work for actually valuable attention. In his case,

[00:02:06] he's right, the attention on the DVD had no real value to him. Yes, they could pay for that,

[00:02:11] but see the point about positive externalities in just a minute. Of course, many people who

[00:02:16] would have you work for free value attention far differently than you or I might. No, writing a

[00:02:22] guest blog post for a little blog is probably not valuable enough to you. No, designing a logo for

[00:02:28] the zoo for free is probably not valuable either. And the argument that it is valuable,

[00:02:33] it's good for your portfolio, is inevitably selfish and irrational. The lions get their food,

[00:02:38] the vets get paid, and even the guy selling peanuts doesn't do it for free. On the other hand,

[00:02:44] for a long time, it made perfect sense for opinion leaders without big blog followings to write

[00:02:49] for free for the Huffington Post. And there's still a line of people eager to write for the New

[00:02:54] York Times op-ed page, not for the money. And if Oprah calls, sure answer her even though her show

[00:03:00] isn't what it used to be. The more generous you are with your ideas and the more they spread,

[00:03:04] the more likely it is your perceived value goes up. There are double standards all over the place

[00:03:11] here. There was a national kerfuffle from people who should be doing something more productive,

[00:03:14] about Amanda Palmer giving musicians a chance to practice their hobby or voluntarily gain exposure.

[00:03:20] But no one complains about all the showcases and music festivals that don't pay musicians a penny.

[00:03:25] There's a law against having interns do work that ought to be paid for, but college football

[00:03:30] players give up their health and their time to participate for free in a billion dollar industry.

[00:03:35] Positive externalities are one of the magical building blocks of the web.

[00:03:40] When the work you do creates useful side effects, like the smell wafting from the bakery down the street,

[00:03:45] it's not only selfish to prevent others from partaking, it's actually stupid.

[00:03:50] The infrastructure we all depend on only works because we've made it easier than ever for ideas

[00:03:55] to spread and be shared. That's different though from bespoke work and live work and risky work

[00:04:01] on demand. The challenge of this calculus is that it keeps changing, the landscape changes and so does

[00:04:07] your work. When I started my professional speaking career 15 years ago, not only did I speak for free,

[00:04:13] my company even paid money to sponsor events so I could speak for free. When Ted offered me a chance

[00:04:18] to speak for free years later, I took it because in fact the quality of the audience, the attention

[00:04:24] to detail and the chance to make an impact all made it worth it. But when SXSW, a corporation

[00:04:30] that makes millions of dollars a year offers me a chance to be a speaker, pay my own way,

[00:04:35] and hope to get some attention from their very overloaded audience, it's easier for me to say

[00:04:40] free makes no sense here. Some of the factors to consider, do they pay other people who do this work,

[00:04:47] do their competitors? Am I learning enough from this interaction to call this part of my education?

[00:04:53] Is this public work with my name on it or am I just saving them cash to do a job they should pay for?

[00:04:58] If I get paid, is it more likely the organization will pay closer attention,

[00:05:02] promote it better and treat it more seriously? Do I care about their mission?

[00:05:07] Can they afford to do this professionally? Will I get noticed by the right people,

[00:05:11] people who will help me spread the word to the point where I can get hired to do this professionally?

[00:05:17] What's the risk to me, my internal monologue, and my reputation if I do this work?

[00:05:22] If you're an up-and-coming band building an audience, then yeah, free, free, free.

[00:05:27] It's always worth it for you to gig because you get at least as much out of the gig as the organizer

[00:05:32] and the audience do. But when you've upped in come, then no, it's not clear you ought to bring your

[00:05:37] light and your soul and your reputation along just because some promoter asked you to.

[00:05:43] Here's the heart of it. If you're busy doing free work because it's a good way to hide from

[00:05:47] the difficult job of getting paid for your work, stop. When you confuse busy for productive,

[00:05:53] you're sabotaging your ability to do important work in the future.

[00:05:57] On the other hand, if you're turning down free gigs because the exposure

[00:06:00] frightens you, the same is true. You're ducking behind the need to get paid as a way to hide your art.

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[00:08:34] And thanks to Seth for letting us share his work today he is a super popular writer. He's got 19

[00:08:39] best selling books and he's also the creator of alt mba an online leadership and management

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[00:08:52] in an intense four week process. It's been going on since 2015 and it's transformed the lives of

[00:08:57] more than 4500 people in more than 70 countries. And a little bit more about Seth he has been writing

[00:09:04] daily on his blog for over a decade more than 60,000 people have taken his online courses and he's

[00:09:10] got five TED talks. His site is definitely worth checking out. He's got a lot to offer there. You

[00:09:15] can find his huge blog but also those books I mentioned as well as podcasts, speaking engagements

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[00:09:26] and I do have that linked in this episode's description. But I think that's going to do it for today

[00:09:31] hope you have had a great one. Hope you enjoyed the post from Seth and thanks so much for being a

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