2075: How to Influence People: The Most Overlooked Secret by Jeff Goins on Persuasion Skills
Optimal Work DailyJune 06, 2026
2075
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2075: How to Influence People: The Most Overlooked Secret by Jeff Goins on Persuasion Skills

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Episode 2075:

Jeff Goins reveals that influence rarely comes from charisma, status, or manipulation. The people who build meaningful connections and open unexpected doors are often the ones willing to ask boldly, listen sincerely, and treat influential people like human beings instead of gatekeepers. His practical stories and refreshing take on leadership show how authenticity and accessibility can transform your relationships, opportunities, and confidence.

Read along with the original article(s) here: https://goinswriter.com/influence-people/

Quotes to ponder:

"We humans have a bad habit of talking ourselves out of greatness."

"The real secret to winning friends and influencing people is anyone can do it. You just have to ask."

"There are people out there, waiting to connect with those bold enough to ask."

Episode references:

How to Win Friends and Influence People: https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034

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[00:01:00] This is Optimal Work Daily. How to influence people. The most overlooked secret by Jeff Goins of Goinswriter.com. Anyone can be a leader. Sounds easy, right? It's not. True leadership is rare because most people aren't willing to do the one thing they need to grow their influence. What do the world's best leaders know that the rest of us don't? How do you become an influencer without feeling like a sleazy salesman?

[00:01:28] How do you connect with important people and get your reputation to spread? People sometimes ask me how I've been able to do interviews with in-demand quote-unquote celebrities like Steven Pressfield and Chris Brogan. They wonder how to get guest posts published on Copyblogger or Zen Habits, some of the most popular blogs on the web. These people are the same ones who ask about getting a New York Times bestselling author to endorse your book or want to know what it takes to interview the CEO of a major company.

[00:01:56] They want to know the answer to a simple question that confounds most of us. And for years, I didn't understand it myself. It's this. Why can't I get more influence? The answer may surprise you. The secret to gaining influence. Some people don't want you to know this. It's a secret long held by the social elite, what builds dynasties and topples kingdoms. It's the explanation for how even the humblest of beginnings can lead to the strongest successes.

[00:02:26] This is important for you to hear, and it could be the answer to getting your book published or launching a successful business. It might even mean landing that connection that changes everything. The secret to how to connect with influential people is simple. Ask them. Why do so many people neglect this practice? Why overlook something so obvious? First, let's set the record straight. I'm nobody special. I'm not a charismatic leader or persuasive speaker.

[00:02:54] I do not possess any innate gifts for winning people over. A chubby misfit in high school, I learn to play guitar and to avoid getting beat up, sometimes. In other words, I'm no Dale Carnegie. Far from an outlier, I'm often unsure of myself and struggle with confidence issues. Why share this? Because if I can do it, you can do it. And if you believe me and you're ready for some practical tips on how to do it. The new leadership.

[00:03:22] Bill Gates used to publish his email address. An important leader and CEO, he still made himself available to his followers. When I heard about this, I decided to email an author I had always admired and see what might happen. I asked his advice and a day later, he responded. I was in awe. A year later, that same author, a guy named Seth Godin, emailed me, offering to do an interview for my blog about his next book.

[00:03:48] When the book launched, he linked to me and sent more traffic than my little blog had ever seen. After this experience, I had a thought that changed everything. If uber blogger Seth Godin is this accessible, who else is? If someone so influential and unreachable, in my mind, was just an email away, what would stop me from contacting anyone I wanted to meet? That's just what I did. What followed was a chain of events that included one audacious pursuit after another.

[00:04:16] I discovered there were others like Seth who were making themselves available to average Joes like me. This is the new leadership. Accessibility. There are people out there waiting to connect with those bold enough to ask. You are your own worst enemy. Not too long ago, I saw a friend get a guest post published on a popular blogging site, a popular blog about making money online. I was amazed, even a little jealous. Although I had gotten into the habit of making big asks,

[00:04:46] this was one platform that was still off-limits to me. Maybe someday, I thought. So, I sent my friend a message asking him how he got his piece published. Do you know what his secret was? You guessed it. He asked. He sent an email with an idea, they approved it, and then they published it. In fact, this was the second time he had done this. So, I did the same. And it worked like a charm. We humans have a bad habit of talking ourselves out of greatness.

[00:05:13] We doubt ourselves, thinking we don't have what it takes. We give in to fear and sabotage ourselves before we even begin. We are our own worst enemy. Recently, I encouraged a friend to email a leader he admired. He wouldn't do it. He'd already made up his mind. This person was just too busy to respond. After I all but forced my friend to do it, the person emailed him back immediately. My friend couldn't believe it because he had already said no for him.

[00:05:43] Turns out, most people are this accessible. We just have to believe they want to hear from us. How to win a friend. Winning friends was a phrase popularized by Dale Carnegie, and it's one that bothers me. It sounds self-serving. Friendships aren't won. They're made organically and honestly. But it wasn't until I started reading Carnegie's secrets in How to Win Friends and Influence People that I finally let my guard down. Here are a few of his methods.

[00:06:12] Show genuine interest in someone else. Remember people's names. Listen. Sincerely make someone feel important. And smile. Honesty and sincerity? Man, what a jerk. Do you want to know the secret to getting influential people to do stuff for you? Put the idea of getting influential people to do stuff for me completely out of your mind. Instead, try to help people.

[00:06:38] Slay the dragon of insecurity and make bold but humble asks. Invite someone to breakfast or coffee. Ask for a few minutes to chat on the phone. Listen, smile, and thank them. That's what I do. That's all I do. In other words, make a friend. The real secret to winning friends and influencing people is anyone can do it. You just have to ask. Why you're not an influencer yet.

[00:07:06] So why aren't you doing this? Why aren't you connecting with influential people? If you're anything like I was, you've probably succumbed to one of the following temptations. You're scared to ask. You've already said no for someone else. You've bypassed winning friends and tried to immediately influence people. In other words, you're trying to use people. You don't listen. You talk about yourself too much. Or you think it's all about you. I believe you have something to say.

[00:07:36] I believe you've sabotaged yourself one too many times. I believe the world needs your voice and dream. And it's time to act. You just listened to the post titled, How to Influence People, The Most Overlooked Secret, by Jeff Goins of GoinsWriter.com. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get

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[00:09:03] The Art of Work and Real Artists Don't Starve. On his site you can hear his thoughts on writing, life, and creative work. And you're going to hear him narrated across a few of our shows because he covers a lot of the topics that we cover here on the network. So if you're looking to share your work but you're afraid of becoming the starving artist, his site is for you. Lots of great advice there. So come on and check it out at goinswriter.com G-O-I-N-S And thanks again to Jeff for letting us share his work.

[00:09:31] Hope you are enjoying your weekend if you're listening in real time. And I'll be back with you tomorrow for the Sunday show. And that is where your optimal life awaits.