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Episode 2504:
Christian Finn from MuscleEvo.net challenges the popular belief that fasted weight training is detrimental to muscle growth and performance. Finn argues that the body's glycogen stores are sufficient to fuel high-intensity workouts during fasting periods, and with the right dietary approach, muscle can still be gained. He addresses common concerns and offers insights into optimizing fasted training for muscle growth and fat loss.
Read along with the original article(s) here: https://muscleevo.net/fasted-weight-training/
Quotes to ponder:
"Lifting weights, sprinting, doing CrossFit WODS, and other high-intensity activities all depend on carbs for fuel. If you perform any of these activities during (or worse, at the end of) your fast, your performance will suffer."
"Fasted weight training is not the catabolic, performance-sapping menace that many claim. A bout of strength training, even when it’s done during a fasted period, will still lead to muscle being gained."
"As long as the right dietary boxes are being ticked, muscle will still be gained whether weight training is done in a fasted or non-fasted state."
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[00:01:35] Research, Pros and Cons, Part 1 by Christian Finn of MuscleEvo.net and I'm Dr. Neal.
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[00:02:11] I read the first half today and then finish it up for you tomorrow. So with that let's get
[00:02:16] right to the first half as we optimize your life. Fasted Weight Training, Research, Pros and Cons,
[00:02:27] Part 1 by Christian Finn of MuscleEvo.net The other day I came across an article in men's health
[00:02:35] on the subject of intermittent fasting and exercise in the morning which cautions against lifting
[00:02:41] weights on an empty stomach. Here's a snippet. Quote, Lifting weights, sprinting, doing crossfit workouts
[00:02:49] of the day and other high intensity activities all depend on carbs for fuel. If you perform any
[00:02:55] of these activities during or worse at the end of your fast your performance will suffer. Instead
[00:03:01] of getting stronger and faster you may well get weaker and slower. If you're a big guy with a lot
[00:03:07] of weight to lose no big deal go ahead and lift on an empty stomach. You might lose a little
[00:03:12] bit of muscle but you'll burn fat too and that's your main goal. But if you're a slimmer guy
[00:03:18] with less muscle mass to spare schedule your lifting workouts during your feeding window.
[00:03:24] End Quote, Fasted Lifting It concludes is a big mistake. In truth, fasted weight training
[00:03:31] is not the catabolic performance sapping menace that many claim. A bout of strength training,
[00:03:37] even when it's done during a fasted period will still lead to muscle being gained. Here's why.
[00:03:43] For one your body has the ability to store plenty of carbohydrate which can be used to fuel
[00:03:48] high intensity exercise such as high intensity interval training or HIIT or resistance training.
[00:03:55] Depending on how much muscle you have your body can hold upwards of 400 grams of glycogen
[00:04:01] which is the name given to carbs stored in your muscles and liver. It's not like your glycogen
[00:04:06] stores run out simply because you're fasting. You also need to consider when during the day
[00:04:11] you're training. Training on an empty stomach first thing in the morning isn't a problem although
[00:04:16] it can take a few weeks to get used to it. When I made the switch from evening to morning training
[00:04:22] I felt weaker and my performance did take a hit but over time I got used to it. However
[00:04:29] the longer the fasting period goes on the more likely it is that your performance will suffer.
[00:04:35] If you leave it until the afternoon or evening before you train you won't be able to lift as much
[00:04:40] weight or do as many reps. Over time this dip in strength means that the growth stimulus delivered by
[00:04:47] a given workout is going to be weaker than it otherwise would be. As a result muscle will be
[00:04:53] gained more slowly compared to doing the same training session with a few meals inside you.
[00:04:59] What about the claim that lifting weights during periods of fasting might mean losing a bit of
[00:05:03] muscle? While training outside of your eating window won't automatically lead to the loss of muscle
[00:05:09] it does increase the potential for muscle to be lost depending on what time of day you train
[00:05:15] and what your overall diet looks like. If you're fasting all day for example lifting weights in
[00:05:20] the evening then eating one big meal at night the risk of muscle loss is certainly increased but
[00:05:27] that's because your short eating window means going too long without giving your muscles the nutrients
[00:05:32] they need to grow rather than because of fasted training per se. So the bottom line as long as the
[00:05:39] right dietary boxes are being ticked muscle will still be gained whether weight training is done in
[00:05:45] a fasted or non-fasted state. Let's discuss this idea of fasted weight training, muscle growth and
[00:05:51] weight loss a bit more as I answer six of the most popular questions about it. One is it okay to
[00:05:59] weight train on an empty stomach? Yes it is okay to lift weights on an empty stomach however
[00:06:05] the quality of your workouts may end up being compromised to some degree depending on the type of
[00:06:11] exercise you're doing or the duration of the fast meaning are you doing alternate day fasting
[00:06:17] or just time restricted feeding and what you've eaten the day before. As far as the type of exercise
[00:06:24] you're doing is concerned I'm going to assume you're following a training routine designed to increase
[00:06:29] the size of your muscles that is you're lifting heavy-ish weights doing multiple sets of compound
[00:06:36] lifts and pushing yourself hard in each set. If so fasted training first thing in the morning is
[00:06:42] unlikely to pose a problem although it may take you a few weeks to get used to it but if you leave
[00:06:48] it until the afternoon or evening before you train chances are you won't be able to lift as much
[00:06:54] weight or do as many reps. In one study leaving several hours between waking up and lifting weights
[00:07:01] had the effect of reducing repetition strength or the number of reps you're able to do with a given
[00:07:06] weight by 15% in the squat and 6% in the bench press. Over time this dip and strength will mean that
[00:07:15] muscle gains happen more slowly compared to doing the same workout with a few meals inside you.
[00:07:20] I can usually make it through until the early afternoon without eating anything after that I start
[00:07:25] to get hungry tired and lightheaded. For me the idea of fasted weight training in the afternoon
[00:07:32] is not a pleasant one I've trained on an empty stomach in the morning without a problem but not
[00:07:37] in the afternoon and certainly not in the evening. The amount of food you've eaten the day before
[00:07:43] is also going to make a difference. A big day of eating prior to a fasted workout will leave you with
[00:07:49] plenty of energy to get through that workout but if you've barely eaten anything the day before
[00:07:55] chances are you're going to find it difficult to give it your all in the gym. There's also a degree of
[00:08:00] variability from person to person some people love fasted training and feel like they do better without
[00:08:06] eating anything before a morning workout. Even just a pre workout snack leaves them feeling like
[00:08:11] they're gonna throw up the entire time others find that they get shaky and dizzy when they try
[00:08:17] fasted training their best workouts come after they've eaten several times throughout the day
[00:08:22] all of which means you will need to experiment it'll take time for your body to adapt to fasted
[00:08:28] weight training so give yourself a few weeks to get used to it before deciding whether or not it's
[00:08:33] right for you. Two, can you build muscle while training in a fasted state? Yes you can build muscle
[00:08:41] when training in a fasted state whether you'll build as much muscle as you would have had your
[00:08:46] training been done after a meal is open to debate for the reasons I mentioned earlier
[00:08:51] but resistance training even in a fasted state will stimulate muscle gains. To maximize the muscle
[00:08:58] building response to about of heavy lifting especially if it's done on an empty stomach you want to
[00:09:04] get some post workout protein inside you training first thing in the morning in a fasted state then
[00:09:10] waiting until the afternoon before eating any protein will almost certainly slow the rate at which
[00:09:15] muscle is gained. Ideally that post workout protein is in the form of regular food. Three,
[00:09:23] will fasted weight training or cardio help with fat loss? Fasted weight training can certainly
[00:09:29] help with fat loss but it isn't going to help you lose body fat any faster than the same workout
[00:09:35] done in a non-fasted state. In fact the benefits of fasted workouts from a fat loss point of view at
[00:09:41] least are minimal. Studies do show that fasted weight training does increase fat burning
[00:09:47] compared to the same workout done after a meal because you haven't eaten anything blood sugar
[00:09:52] and insulin levels are low which tends to favor the use of fat for fuel. However your body will
[00:09:59] adjust the rate of carb and fat oxidation over time that's why we need to look at how fasted
[00:10:05] training affects body composition changes over a period of weeks and months any short term
[00:10:10] change in insulin blood sugar levels and fat oxidation during a workout itself does not tell the
[00:10:16] whole story to be continued. You just listen to part one of the post titled fasted weight training
[00:10:27] research pros and cons by Christian Finn of muscleevo.net and I'll be right back with my commentary.
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[00:11:35] Dr. Niel here for my commentary. So far what we've learned in part one of Christian's post
[00:11:41] is that working out in a fasted state may not be a miracle muscle builder or a miracle fat burner.
[00:11:50] We really need to consider two main things. One, our overall diet quality, not just the quality
[00:11:56] of our diets on the days we work out but instead what we eat most days and two, we need to see
[00:12:03] what works best for us. Christian mentioned that for some eating before a workout makes them feel sick.
[00:12:10] That's me for sure. For others, if they don't eat soon before a workout, they feel weak and dizzy.
[00:12:17] This is where experimenting and finding what works for you is so important.
[00:12:22] Now, if I go ahead and continue discussing this topic,
[00:12:26] I'll probably start getting into what Christian is going to discuss in part two of the episode,
[00:12:31] so I better stop now. Thank you so much for listening every day. Thank you for sharing this show
[00:12:37] with someone else. I'll be back here tomorrow to finish up this post, so I'll see you there
[00:12:42] where your optimal life awaits.

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