2921: The Gift of Subtraction by Rich and Regular on Financial Priorities
Optimal Living DailyOctober 01, 2023
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2921: The Gift of Subtraction by Rich and Regular on Financial Priorities

Julien Saunders of Rich and Regular talks about the gift of subtraction.

Episode 2921: The Gift of Subtraction by Rich and Regular on Financial Priorities

Julien and Kiersten started rich & REGULAR in 2017 after their stint in real estate investing led them to discover the F.I.R.E movement. At that point, they'd listened to their friends complain about doing everything right, and still not really "feeling" happy with the financial progress they'd made. Their blog became a place where they not only shared in their frustrations, but offered solutions to a richer and happier life. They could not have imagined that just a few years later, they would sign a book deal with the world's largest publisher, Penguin Random House. But that's not all. Their blog has afforded them opportunities to work with incredible brands, world-class media and into the fast-paced world of digital entrepreneurship.

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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Optimal Living Daily Episode 2921, The Gift of Subtraction by Julian Saunders of RichandRegular.com

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm Justin Malik. Welcome back to our usual Sunday bonus episode where I share an episode from one of the other podcasts in the Optimal Living Daily Network,

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: usually overlapping with the kinds of themes that come up here. Today's episode comes from Optimal Finance Daily.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You can follow or subscribe to that show wherever you're hearing this if you enjoy what you're about to hear.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's get right to the post and commentary from Diana as we optimize your life.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The Gift of Subtraction by Julian Saunders of RichandRegular.com

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Whenever we're faced with a challenge that must be overcome or an opportunity to take advantage of something cool,

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: our instincts kick in telling us, what can we do? Is there an app we can download or a website we can look at real quick?

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Can we ask Alexa or Siri, should we reach out to such and such to help us think this through?

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's add it to the to-do list on the shared drive so that we can revisit this thought later.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We're get it done kind of people, so our natural instinct is to immediately jump into action.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: This is all fine if it helps to accomplish things we've set out to do,

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: but we've learned that an even better way of getting things done is by having less and having less to do.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Simple concept, but not an easy one.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So many people, us included, treat their overwhelm with addition.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We habitually add things to our lives like products, services, features, subscriptions, calendars, houses, cars, lists, bells, whistles, phones, apps,

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and responsibilities instead of just simply saying, nah.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This revelation really sunk in years ago as we visited the Grand Canyon.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's earned its right as a wonder of the world based on the views alone,

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but after we listened to how it was created with no human intervention, we just stood there in awe of its scale.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: There's something about standing over a cliff in complete silence that makes you realize what really matters, not falling.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: How little you really need to be happy, colonel and water to be exact,

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and how small we are in the grand scheme of things, pun intended.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: The same is true with our money.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: As odd as it may sound, one of the key reasons we've been able to save as much as we have,

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: increase our net worth by $95,000 during the first six months of 2018,

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: stay on pace to achieve financial independence despite Mr. R&R quitting his job

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and buying a new house is because we've learned to appreciate the gift of subtraction.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Quite simply, we have more by having less.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We choose these words carefully because, yes, we certainly want and desire more in some areas, just not in all.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That concept is at the core of being rich and regular,

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: because we encourage each other to spend on the things that really matter to us

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: to ignore the things that don't and to stay regular along the way.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: While we understand the concepts of frugality and minimalism,

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: we just don't believe those strategies will meet our family's needs over time.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Eventually we would grow weary of the monotony and the deprivation would likely lead to a destructive relapse.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Instead, we choose a path where we maintain a long-term investment outlook,

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: making daily trade-offs between things we could enjoy immediately

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and things we could enjoy for years to come.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: This way, whenever we got a pay raise, promotion, paid off a debt that freed up cash

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: or tripped and stumbled into a shit ton of money,

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we resist the temptation of upgrading everything along the way in exchange for the ultimate prize,

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: the option to retire early.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: For example, we posted a picture a few weeks ago on our Instagram account

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and received some really inspiring feedback and comments.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The picture is of the parking spot outside our old home

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and is one of many examples of our trade-offs.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, we could have upgraded our home and parked our cars in a shiny new garage a long time ago,

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but we made the decision to live small for the first three years of our marriage

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and so far that decision, and many more, has proven to pay off remarkably.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Did it suck on hot days? Yes!

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Does it suck even more on cold and rainy days carrying a baby? Absolutely!

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But the long-term benefit of turning our old primary residence into a debt-free rental was worth it to us.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: The gift of subtraction is one that keeps giving.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just one example though.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Following is a list of other subtractions and things we've delayed or traded off over the years.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: In our home, we grind coffee beans and brew our coffee almost every morning.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Rarely will you catch us in a Starbucks unless we have a gift card.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We still don't have cable.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We opt for Netflix, Amazon Prime TV and Hulu with no commercials.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We also get HBO through Hulu.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're on the fence with cutting the cord, well, you shouldn't be.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We just took advantage of a great offer for AT&T Fiber last week.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: For years we opted for their high-speed DSL service and it worked fine,

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: but decided to upgrade. So far so good.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Arunar cooks 80% of baby Arunar's food.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: He also cooks most of the meals we eat at home including lunches that can be reheated and brought to work easily.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Most of baby Arunar's food is the same as what we eat.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Just cut differently, seasoned lighter and cut into smaller pieces.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: This makes our lives easier and our baby healthier.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Check out our Instagram highlights for an example of this.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We buy store-brand products often but not exclusively.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Notably pantry products and dry goods like cereal, paper, plastic, nuts and beans.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: We lean heavily towards a plant-based diet for health reasons

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: but still enjoy meats and seafoods regularly.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Fruits, vegetables and grains are also less expensive than meats and seafood.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Our old home's kitchen was completely done by IKEA.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Our new home's closet system and a few other pieces are also done by IKEA.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Our cars.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Arunar drives a Honda Accord with just over 160,000 miles.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The rear seat ceiling fabric was flopping so he broke out the gorilla glue and fixed it.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It looks terrible.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Mrs. Arunar drives a Lexus 250 with over 150,000 miles.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Arunar can't sit in the front without his knees being smushed against the glove box

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and baby Arunar has to be cradled to be placed in the back seat

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: just to avoid being decapitated upon entry.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It's cozy to say the least.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Our credit cards.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We put the vast majority of our spending on one joint credit card

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: to optimize the cashback value and use the points to pay for most of baby Arunar's stuff.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's paid in full every month.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Every month.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Our personal stuff.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Mrs. Arunar does her hair mostly on her own instead of going to a salon.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Arunar gets a haircut every three to four weeks.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Mrs. Arunar uses a capsule wardrobe.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: This enables her to cost-effectively mix up her styles

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and reduce decision-making in the mornings.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Arunar only buys his clothes from a handful of stores

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and typically uses a coupon for at least 25 to 50% off.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Most of his clothes fit a general color scheme, blue, so it coordinates seamlessly.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We've spent less than $100 on toys and books for our son in his first year.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything else was a gift from friends or family.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Instead, we opt to go to playgrounds and parks where he obsesses over pine straws, sticks, and car watching.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of these are huge cost savings.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Other are small cost savings, and others are time savers.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The point is, together they are a set of deliberate choices

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: that represent the subtraction of stuff we don't value today.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This frees up capacity and money, which enables us to have a surplus of the things we do value.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Time.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You just listened to the post titled The Gift of Subtraction

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: by Julian Saunders of richandregular.com.

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[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Such great points here from Julian, and I love all the specific examples he shares.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Another way of thinking about this concept of subtraction is really just simplifying.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: As technology advances and there are ever more things to buy,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: it seems like our lives get more and more complex.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Choosing to simplify your clothing or meal prep or finances is a great way to just keep your head on straight.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Another benefit of simplifying is that it allows us to go deeper into the things we choose to keep in our lives.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So for example, in figuring out what form of exercise is sustainable for me,

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I've realized that big room yoga, long walks and hiking are what I'm into.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Rather than continually experimenting with new forms of exercise, which I still do from time to time,

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I've made a decision recently to just go deeper into these three forms of exercise every day.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I've done the same thing with my social circle, even though meeting new people is my absolute favorite thing to do.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably driven by the pandemic and having my social life restricted,

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been able to deepen relationships with the friends I have now

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: with standing weekly zoom calls, dinners and activities to make sure we're getting regular quality time together.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Along that same vein, I used to have many different tools to keep me organized,

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: but I've now pared down to a bullet journal and a calendar to make sure I'm not forgetting anything.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a wrap for another Monday show. Have a great rest of your day

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'll be back tomorrow where Optimal Life awaits.